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Mike Adams: Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com. I'm Mike Adams. And our guest today is Roger Stone, who probably needs no introduction, I think one of the most amazing leaders of the political freedom movement here for America first. And Roger Stone. Sir, I really honor your work. Welcome to the show today.
Roger Stone: Great to be with you, Mike. I really appreciate the opportunity.
Mike Adams: It's it's great to have you on, you know, and this is one of the few places where you get to defend yourself against all the horrendous accusations and fakery that's been leveled against you. And one of the most recent things was that somebody came up with a, what appears to be an AI generated audio that mimics your voice and was put out there claiming that you are calling to, to murder somebody? Well, I was able to because I work in AI, I was able to generate my AI voice saying the same thing that you said, even though I never said that either. So we were able to prove that's AI. What are your thoughts?
Roger Stone: Yeah, and this is, the AI is now going to be the next tool of the radical left is going to be used in politics all the time, to defame people in this particular case. A not very credible left wing website, media AI, which is owned by one of the former talking heads at MSNBC, Dan Abrams, published what they said was a four year old snippet of an audio in which it is alleged that I plotted to murder two Democratic congressmen. First of all, it was given to them anonymously. So we're supposed to believe who were was taken, who I was talking to, there's no verification of any of that. And then I immediately sent the audio itself out for forensic analysis using the best two up to date software programs. And one of them showed me there was a 96 point percent chance of likelihood that it was fraudulently generated. The other one was 92.8. I never said the words attributed to me, the ambient restaurant background noise, which makes it harder to detect I was dropped in after the fact it's a fraud. But what's outrageous. Mike is the way MSNBC CNN, The Washington Post, Bill Maher, Rolling Stone, all the usual suspects, the jackals of the fake news media, jump on it immediately reported as if it's factual, never even include my denial. nevermind the fact that I produced the evidence that it was a fraud. And of course, the Democrats are demanding yet another investigation on Capitol Hill police, the FBI, let me be clear, there's nothing to investigate. I never said those words. The woman who wrote this story woman, Diane Falzon. In Italian Falzon means fake, false. That's what it means.
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Mike Adams: Is that a pseudonym for her?
Roger Stone: That's definitely her real name, you can see her on Instagram, she's an unmarried mother of two seems to spend a lot of time on the nightclub circuit. But it's kind of ironic that that's her real name. And it really does mean false. Because I'm, as you know, half Sicilian myself.
Mike Adams: All right. So let me educate the audience in case they're not aware of this. But any person who has done any amount of interviews, and you've done 1000s of hours over many years of your career, and like I have as well, or Alex Jones, for example, it's easy to find voice samples of those people, even Donald Trump, right. And it's easy to take those voice samples to cloud based AI services, such as 11 Labs, for example. And you simply upload the voice samples, and then you can type in any text you want. And they will have that voice, say those words. And it will do variations. So you could try like 50 variations and get the one that you liked the best and use that one. And they sound almost perfect, right? So at this point, anybody can sort of make you say anything they want, and then hand it over to mediaite or MSNBC or whatever, and claim this as Roger Stone.
Roger Stone: Precisely, in fact, right now, ironically, somebody made a recording of Joe Biden that was used in a robo call to New Hampshire households telling people not to vote in the Democratic primary. Also, I noticed that the state of the family of George Carlin the late comedian is suing two guys because they put up an audio of an hour long stand up comedy routine by George Carlin that is not George Carlin. So this is going to be the next wave get used to this there's going to be more and more of it. But this is what New York we would call a fog AZ It's a fraud. And once again, Mike Roger Stone Well, I did nothing wrong.
Mike Adams: Yeah, exactly. Wondering about your website. By the way, stonezone.com is where people can find all your videos your shows rumble channel. What else do you have on your website? Give us a quick.
Roger Stone: There's a lot going on there. First of all, I do a daily show at rumble have called the stone zone, which I posted there you can also go to rumble.com/roger Stone, I do a weekly radio show W ABC in New York from four to six on Sundays is literally the most powerful am radio station in the United States. You can listen to that at W ABC radio.com. It's also streaming worldwide. I write also print journalism there. Today I posted my mother's meatball recipe old family recipe because I had mentioned it on the radio had so many requests for it. And you can you can also go to the store I have stones rules of my rules for life. This is kind of like Sun Tzu's The Art of War or Machiavelli's the prince is everything I've learned in a 45 year career in the public arena as a great introduction by my friend Tucker Carlson. My book on the Kennedy assassination, the man who killed Kennedy the case against LBJ. All my products, they're available at the stone zone store. So folks should check it out.
Mike Adams: All right, stonezone.com. That's website, folks. So, Roger, let's go back to the AI generated voice snippet, because it seems like if any media outlet were acting responsibly at this point, knowing that the state of the art of AI voice generation is very advanced, that they would have to now suspect any, any audio snippet of being AI generated. And they would have to be able to confirm the actual source, the location, time and date of the recording. And they would have to have a recording forensically analyzed to confirm that it is not AI. And yet, from what you're telling me, none of the media outlets went through any of those steps whatsoever. Correct?
Roger Stone: Correct. So they just they do no due diligence at all actually, to analyze such an audio, if it were real, you would need the original device on which was recorded and you would need the original audio itself. This has been compressed or both of the of the technicians who examined this, for me told me it has been substantially compressed. As you correctly point out if I have a 10 second snippet of your voice, and I spend any time kind of studying your the cadences of the way you speak, it's very, very simple. And it's unexpected, inexpensive to create an audio that people would listen to and they would absolute squeeze swear that was Mike Adams was Mike Adams at all. So look, I've been through a lot of witch hunts. This is the latest witch hunt. And of course the two congressmen that I falsely accused of plotting the murder of Jerry Nadler and, and Eric Swalwell. Eric swallow the the Chinese Communist compromised congressman from California. They of course pound the desk and whine about this when there's really nothing to whine about. I'm not a fan of either one of them, but it certainly makes sense. This, by the way, allegedly happened in October of 2020. But why would we believe that they provide no documentation of that either. And it is alleged that I was talking to a friend of mine, former New York City police officer Salvador Greco. He has no memory of this. He has a pending lawsuit civil lawsuit against the city of New York because they terminated him. After 14 years of distinguished service. unblemished service as a New York City police officer often assigned to some of the most dangerous precincts in the country in the city for the graveyard shift. They just arbitrarily fired him simply because he's a friend of mine. So here's a there's a regulation. For New York City police officers it says an officer cannot fraternize with anybody who in the past may have or may reasonably be suspected of in the future. Being involved in criminal activity. Well, that would be Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City. He was a New York City police officer he was a captain. He had missed having spend time with a convicted felon. Al Sharpton was a convicted felon Mike Tyson with a convicted felon Louis Farrakhan. He was charged Mike under the exact same rules my friend Greco and they docked his vacation time five days that was his punishment, right? It's all selectively enforced chin, lost his livelihood, doesn't have good conduct letters so he can't get a job as a police officer in any other jurisdiction. He's suing the city of New York that lawsuit has survived two motions to dismiss by the city. It's going forward to trial now. The investigation against him is a total fraud. It is interesting in one sense though, because because he was made with me on January 5, and sixth, although we never left our hotel suite, we did have contact with a one's particular member the Oathkeepers. And that guy testified in his administrative trial that No, Roger Stone had no knowledge of what the Oathkeepers were up to the six wasn't involved and knew nothing about it. So that's on the record in under oath. kind of convenient, actually.
Mike Adams: Yeah. Well, it's clear to all of America now that J6 was a deep state trap. But in fact, I want to ask you now, America, Donald J. Trump, as president now more than ever, it's becoming more and more apparent apparent, with each passing day. Joe Biden, you know, an Alzheimer's patient, apparently are a walking cognitive zombie can't function and has no morality and no rule of law. I mean, just just one of the worst presidents in the history of this republic. People miss Donald J. Trump. And now look, I've criticized Trump on a few issues. We're never going to have the super perfect candidate. But I've also recently said it's clear that Trump is our only legitimate option now to save this country from total destruction. How what are your thoughts on?
Roger Stone: I totally agree with that. Look, first, of course, he's not perfect. No one is perfect only only He is perfect. But without any question. You had unprecedented peace and prosperity. That's right. When he was president. He didn't start any new wars. He did bring our troops home in large numbers from the Middle East, without having the countries they were serving and collapse around behind them. Unlike Joe Biden, we had unprecedented economic growth we had, we had unprecedented job creation, unprecedented wage growth, unprecedented amount of money coming back in the country to be invested here, and to create jobs here. We had to scores of conservatives appointed to the federal bench. We had the rebuilding of our military strength, which had been allowed to atrophy. But most importantly, I think, in the foreign policy realm, Trump took advantage of his noted unpredictability. Vladimir Putin would never have invaded Ukraine because you didn't know what Trump would do. Trump told him he would hit him and hit him hard. I'll hit Moscow. He said, Well, Putin didn't know whether to believe him or not. And if he was going to take a chance, same was also true of Premier GE. He told GE directly you move in Taiwan, I move on you. She said you will not do that. Trump said Don't try me pal. Trump's a tough New Yorker. And he you come from the world of Manhattan real estate that's as cutthroat as it gets true. I mean, I've said this before I worked for Richard Nixon, he was a very tough guy, he clawed his way back from political obscurity to to the greatest political comeback in American history. I worked for Senator Bob Dole, Bob Dole is an American hero, he was hit by German, pardon me by Italian machine gunfire in World War Two, a hit by a shell as well was told you will never walk again. You'll never have the use of your limbs again, you'll never feed yourself. Again. He fought his way back to total functionality was a great US Senator would have been a great president. Those guys were really tough guys. Neither one of them is nearly as tough as Donald Trump. You don't want to be on the other side of him in in negotiation. That's the guy I want guarding my tax dollars. That's the guy I want running by foreign policy.
Mike Adams: Absolutely. I mean, the current foreign policy under the Biden administration is a total disaster. There's no plan, there's no competence. There's not even any understanding of history or what America's strengths are. So I completely agree with you on that. But given that the popularity of Trump is surging back in the minds of people who might have been sort of on the bench before, you know, they're walking away from the Democrat Party, and also the invasion of America by illegals is really disrupting a lot of these blue cities. You're seeing a lot of people who are Democrats saying we need Trump here, otherwise, we're gonna lose our country. How desperate are the Democrats looking right now in terms of wanting to stop Trump because of his rising popularity?
Roger Stone: I think they're increasingly hysterical. I think that they I think that they are there. They really can't believe that this tsunami of lawfare. These totally patched together fabricated charges against Trump, first of all pertaining to his handling of of confidential documents, his questioning of the outcome of the election, which of course he has an absolute first amendment right to do this idea that he knew he lost. But he tried to claim to power while try proving that he knew he lost that's the legal term there is mens rea. You have to prove Trump's state of mind. Only Trump knows What Trump's state of mind is now those who would prosecute and say, well, but the FBI director told me last, yes, so watch doesn't matter what the FBI director told him, Director of Homeland Security or the Attorney General, it only matters what he believed those guys have proven themselves to be bad actors anyway. So just because they said something was true, doesn't mean Trump believed it was true. So they have, I think, inadvertently, might they have turbocharged his campaign? He is stronger today than he's ever been at any point since he entered politics. And it is also allows him to raise the money necessary to run because his donors are small and medium sized donors who give repeatedly they're not he'll never be the toast of Wall Street. He'll never be the toast of the millionaires or the billionaires. That's not is America is America's a small businessman and woman who recognizes the existential threat to the country. And just watching the Democrats desperately trying to jujitsu this border issue. Let's be very clear. Open borders is the policy of Joe Biden, he and his administration are responsible for the migrant invasion that we're experiencing, and passage of this bipartisan, Schumer Langford border security bill would change. Absolutely nothing at Laos, $1.8 million, a million illegals to continue to enter the country per year. And it provides the funding to process them. It changes nothing. So this idea that Trump is opposing the bill, because he wants the situation in the border to continue so he can run on it, passing this bill would not solve anything whatsoever. And Joe Biden goes from two weeks ago saying or is Secretary of Homeland Security in his press spokeswoman saying, Oh, the border is secure, the border is secure. And now suddenly, he says, well, the border is not secure. But the Republicans won't give me the tools to close it. Let's be very clear. The law today just simply needs to be enforced. We don't need a new law. We actually don't even need any new funding. Just give the border patrol the correct orders not to stand down but to enforce the law. And Donald Trump proved that our border can be secure. illegal crossings under Donald Trump have trickled down to almost nothing.
Mike Adams: Yeah, and by the way, that Senate deal that has I think it's been abandoned at this point, even in the Senate. They're backing away from Mitch McConnell is backing away from it. And in the House of Representatives, Scalise and even speaker Johnson, I said they said was going to be dead on arrival in the house. But you make a really critical point there, which is that Biden wants unlimited illegal immigration. And that deal would have provided border funding for Ukraine and Border Protection funding for Israel, but no real solution to the border problem in the USA. And it's infuriating to the American people. And under Biden right now, that taxpayer dollars will protect the borders of every other country in the world, but not our own.
Roger Stone: Yeah. So if we were looking at the bill, what it really is, is a Ukrainian war funding bill, right $60 billion to continue to fund the losing war in Ukraine where Ukraine is getting the crap kicked out of them. That's not what the US media reports. But that's the reality from every military expert that I know and respect to looks at the situation, General Flynn and others, and then secondarily, a huge amount of money for Israel. Now. We give Israel we already give them I think $1.6 billion a year, it's very hard for me to realize, even imagine what more they could possibly need. But what's even more disturbing, Mike is the double game that Joe Biden is playing in the Middle East. I mean, we're funding Iran to the tune of $100 billion a year. And they in turn are funding Hamas and Hezbollah. And the Biden State Department has basically been infiltrated this fellow Robert Malley and those who work for him. This is the biggest spy scandal since Alger Hiss. His they recently suspended his security clearance, but they don't tell us why. As I said on my ABC radio show this past weekend, I have sources now double sourced. One in Israel, one in the United States with contacts in Iran, who told me that Jake Solomon, the National Security Adviser, gave the Iranians the heads up regarding these recent bombing raids in Syria and Iraq, passing the message through the Qatar carries so that Iran would move its its top military personnel and other leaders out of harm's way.
Mike Adams: Well, I knew that happened. But I didn't know that was Sullivan. That's a that's that's a huge deal.
Roger Stone: There's no question about it. I my sources who are very good one of them is in the US Senate. The other one is in Israel, telling me that Jake Solomon, that current national security adviser who, based on his involvement in the Russian collusion hoax out to be in jail, in my opinion, yeah. But of course, they pay no penalty for breaking the law at all. Let the let the Iranians know that these bombing raids were coming. So the raids are designed to make Joe Biden look tough in the United States in preparation for a reelection campaign. Meanwhile, our traditional ally, Israel, is told what they can do when they can do and so on. We're on both sides of the war. We're funding both sides of the war. We're trying to control the strategy. We're giving the Iranians have freehand, why would anyone believe that the 100 million dollars you're giving to Hamas is only going to be used for humanitarian purposes? Because Hamas said, so why would we believe them? Why would you believe that none of the 100 billion and assets that were just unfreezing for the Iranians are not going to make their way to Moscow as bola. Of course they are. That portion, which is not being used to fund the development of their nuclear devices, Trump said this past weekend that he believes based on his knowledge and his own sources, that Iran is 60 days away from having a nuclear bomb. Let's change everything.
Mike Adams: Let's talk about that for a second. Because we all remember that under Obama, Obama flew cargo planes full of pallets of laundered cash to give it to Iran, and Obama's nuclear deal with Iran, which the corporate media dishonestly described as halting Iran's nuclear development program actually encouraged their program, and at the same time, provided more funding for their program. So as you know, Roger, I mean, this this spans many, many years of the United States of America, again, under Obama, but even now continuing, according to what you're saying, under Solomon, enabling Iran, while funding Israel funding both sides of this conflict, probably heading towards nuclear war in the Middle East.
Roger Stone: That's, that's exactly right. I mean, first of all, in all honesty, the Iranians promised that they weren't using this money for the development of a bomb. But once again, why would we believe them? Trump ran openly saying, Look, I'm gonna Nix this deal as soon as I get in. And he did. And the truth is, he really had his foot on Iran throat, I mean, because of the embargoes against them, they couldn't sell their oil, and therefore they didn't have the cash either to continue their nuclear developments, weapons system program, or the money to fund these terrorists. Now, thanks to Uncle Joe Biden, they have the money for both. And we're basically, you know, we're basically funding that program. Now, more importantly, during the Trump presidency, John Kerry is actively conducting his own foreign policy promising the Iranians that he's going to get their nuclear weapons deal re upped, he's in violation of the Logan Act, you can't go out on your personal, private foreign policy, no matter how wealthy you are, why isn't this guy been prosecuted? It's really outrageous. But that's exactly what's happened in the Iranians. In the the radical those in radical Islam, this is very different than, say, Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, or even communist Russia, those people wanted to live. These people don't care whether they live or die. They just wanted to destroy America. And if they have to destroy themselves in the process of doing so, they don't have a problem with that.
Mike Adams: Yeah, and it's, I'm also struck by the way that the the US leaders use US soldiers as drone bait, so that they put us soldiers out there, in Jordan and in Syria, knowing they're going to be struck, so that people like Senator Lindsey Graham, can demand bombing Iran. I mean, the exploitation of American lives so that they can push their narratives is very disturbing to me as well. What are your thoughts on that?
Roger Stone: I think you're absolutely right. It's my understanding that we have approximately 3000 troops along the northern border, along with the Kurds. Why do we have any troops in the region? Why do we have troops there? It makes no sense at all. The bombing raids that we just conducted on in Syria and Iraq. We threw we flew two b one bombers from Texas that had to stop and refuel on the way Are there no American bombers anywhere in the in the our bases in the Middle East? We have bases there. Other no American bombers anywhere in the European theater that have gotten there more efficiently. So your exam flee, right? This is all being staged to let Joe Biden look tough. And these bombing raids I think were largely ineffective because we tipped them off in advance. We did no damage to those that we're trying to hit. This is all kabuki theater, for the for the, for the benefit of American voters. I don't think I don't think there's any support for world war three. We are we're on the cusp of world war three, both here. And in the Ukrainian Russia. Conflict. And Joe Biden seems to be recklessly driving towards it. He reminds me of Slim pickins riding the bomb at the end of Dr. Strangelove and laughing is the world hangs in the balance.
Mike Adams: You know, this reminds me of the Clinton years to every time there would be breaking news about Monica Lewinsky. Clinton would order the bombing of some factories in Sudan or somewhere like that, you know, to try to just take the headlines away from the other news, but that wasn't a day when the media would actually carry some news that was critical of a Democrat. Those days are long gone. In fact, I want to ask you, Roger, you've seen all the shenanigans that the Democrats will come up with. I mean, the Democrat establishment is the most horrendously dishonest, evil, insidious, lawless group of people that you could possibly imagine on this planet. They've done things to you that are unimaginable. What do you think they're willing to do to stop Trump or to stop this upcoming election?
Roger Stone: Well, first of all, I think it's very important to kind of recognize their messaging, because consistent with Alinsky is rules, anything they accuse us of doing is exactly what they're doing. So Trump is a danger to democracy. That's what they say. They're the ones trying to lock up the leading candidate for President of the opposition party based on trumped up charges. They're the ones trying to keep his name off of the ballot, what can be more anti democratic than that? Right? They're the ones who have the intelligence agencies and the Department of Homeland Security, working with social media outlets to cancel and censor anybody who adheres or espouses a narrative. That's contrary to theirs. What could be more anti democratic than that? They are the ones using the 702 data base to illegally collect information on Americans and to conduct illegal warrantless surveillances on 178,000 Americans, what could be more anti democratic than that? We are there's been, as far as I know, the Congress has not, has not approved a declaration of war, when Richard Nixon was impeached, one of the counts against him, was the bombing in Cambodia without congressional approval, has Congress approved these bombings by Joe Biden in Iraq and Syria? Are they heaven, that should actually an impeachable offense, we're going to war, then the Congress needs to declare war.
Mike Adams: So these are things that are happening now. But my question is, what else do you think they're going to add to the stack of malfeasance that they're carrying out to try to stop Trump?
Roger Stone: And look, I think the possibilities are endless. We could, for example, have a yet another pandemic, which is used as an excuse to change the procedures for voting, oh, we could have some false flag staged incident that's made to look like a terrorist attack on American soil that can then be used to justify, as it did in 911, of the launching of yet another war, we could have war with Russia, That one seems pretty obvious to me. And then we, you know, we resort to the War Powers Act, and try to use it as an excuse to change or delay the elections. God forbid we could have an assassination attempt on Donald Trump. I don't like to talk about that, because I don't want it to wish it into being in fact, it's something I pray about every single day is the safety, his safety and security, the safety and security of his family. I wrote a book on this, the man who killed Kennedy the case against LBJ, there is no question that the Deep State or the military industrial complex or whatever you want to call them, they very definitely are deeply involved in the murder of John F. Kennedy. So if they kill one president, if they removed the second President Richard Nixon in a silent coup, because the Watergate break in is as we now know, from declassified documents was a CIA operation. If they attempted to kill Ronald Reagan, that's my next book, by the way, because with the report on the attempted assassination, Reagan has never been read least we know that John Hinckley Jr, who was who was convicted of his attempted assassination is always in front of him shooting from a crouching position upwards, but Reagan was hit from behind and above, and the four shots fired by Hinckley are all accounted for. There's another shooter, there's evidence of that. That's a yet another Central Intelligence Agency operation. Then, when that failed, they tried to remove Reagan over the Iran Contra deal, which I don't think he had any idea with the deep state operatives, including George HW Bush, were up to there. And then of course, the same people who tried to remove Trump in the Russia, Russia Russia hoax, there was no Russian collusion. There was no Russian collusion for me to lie about when I voluntarily testified before Congress. And of course, the two phony Ukrainian impeachments. The second one, designed to cover up Joe Biden's crimes by accusing Trump of doing precisely that was Joe Biden himself at done. So these people are capable of absolutely anything. And they get more apoplectic and more hysterical as their grip on power slips. They've also as you know, Mike, they've with the Elon Musk, buying Twitter, converting it to x and turning over the files and, and for the first time on canceling people like me and Alex Jones and others, they're losing their grip on the narrative. And that really drives them crazy. So well, they may have a tight control on Facebook, today they do on on Instagram, and on YouTube. And Google could be the leading bad actor out there. They're still losing their grip on the narrative. And this makes them even more hysterical. Because, like you and I, we're not even allowed to, to offer a different explanation of what's going on. That's whether it's health freedom, and it's in the medical area, or whether it's what's going on in our foreign policy, or what's going on in Washington. If you don't adhere to their approved narrative? Well, you're a dangerous radical who must be silenced.
Mike Adams: Well, well, right. And this brings me to a question I really wanted to ask you about what Trump will do when He returns in his third term, because he did win the last election as well. This would be his third victory. But I guess his second official term, but as you're probably aware, in his first term, I think he made a lot of very bad decisions and trusting people around him like ag Jeff Sessions, for example, who really betrayed Trump and betrayed America, in my opinion, and then later on Bill Barr, and so on, and, and even allowing Comey to run the FBI and so on. Do you think that now knowing what he knows and what he's been put through, that when Trump returns to the White House, will he make qualitatively different decisions about the type of people to bring in to work around him?
Roger Stone: I absolutely believe that he will. I mean, he gave a great interview this past weekend with Maria Bartiromo, and maybe it was Monday. And I look, he acknowledged that he made mistakes, but let's recognize he didn't come from the world of politics. He came from the world of business. He actually honestly thought not unreasonably by the way that the Republicans were with him, the Democrats would be against him. Reagan was an outsider, but the Republicans had rallied around Reagan, Trump, Trump thought the Republicans would loyally rally around them. He led them to unprecedented victories. And then he really did not know that at least half of those in the Republican Party were trying to remove him from the moment he was elected. And he took a lot of bad advice. Despite that, he already goes down in history as a transformative presidents. So look, they tried to talk him out of canceling the Iranian arms deal. They couldn't. They tried to talk him out of canceling our involvement in the in the Paris Climate Accords. He still insisted on doing it. He achieved many great things, despite, you know, being unfamiliar with the system now, having been through put through the ringer on Russian collusion, and on the two phony impeachments and watching what happened to me what happened to General Flynn? What happened to Paul Manafort, I think he's completely awake, I think you get a very different man. And I think he has a different standard, both in terms of who he selects to appoint to high office. And I frankly, think you're going to get finally, not retribution. How about just equal protection of the law? You're going to charge Roger Stone for lying to Congress, which I didn't do. Well, then why didn't you charge Hillary Clinton because she did lie to Congress, and so did James Comey, the FBI director and so did the CIA Director John Brennan. One standard, not two standards of law. Now in my case, I argued that I did nothing wrong. Those people, it's actually provable. They lied, and they lied about things that were material that were relevant that were significant. I did not write again.
Mike Adams: But this is the selective justice system. I think many of our viewers believe that our judicial system has collapsed. I mean, it's clear with the selective prosecution of, of Trump, and you and others surrounding Trump. And I think that the American people are ready for Trump to be bold, in his third term, and with executive orders on day one, but to be bold in even firing the traders in, let's say, the DOJ, the FBI, the NIH, whatever I mean, it's Trump's power, he can fire the entire executive branch of government, he could fire 100,000 federal workers on day one if he wanted to. And whereas he wouldn't have had support for that in his first administration. I believe that now, the American people are so fed up with the criminality of the federal government, the betrayal, the the allowing of the invasion of America, I feel like the American people will support President Trump to be bold in his actions in his new term.
Roger Stone: I completely agree with that. And the good news is there is planning going on this is he's not going to be starting from ground zero. There's an examination of his immediate options. I think we're at that very rare time in American history. There won't be a few times when the future of the Republic really relied on one man, it was certainly true in the case of George Washington, was true in the case of Abraham Lincoln. And it's now true today in the case of Donald Trump, is he perfect? No, he's not perfect. But he does have the big picture view. And above all, he has the courage, and the gumption and the determination to take these people on. It breaks his heart to see what's happening to America. He built us the most robust economy in our street. And then he was he was basically you curd into destroying his own greatest accomplishment because of the claims of the doctors in the COVID-19 matter. He's not a doctor. So they obviously didn't tell him the truth. And he was forced to destroy that which he was created. By the way. He brought the economy roaring back before he left, because the fundamentals of less regulation and low taxes. We're still there. That's right. So I think you're gonna have peace and prosperity under Donald Trump. I really do think he can solve the Russia Ukrainian thing relatively quickly. It's great to watch the left going absolutely insane. Because my friend Tucker Carlson's, in Russia, where he interviewed Vladimir Putin. Was he when Mike Wallace or maybe it was Chris Wallace interview with Vladimir Putin, as a left didn't go crazy. When Oliver Stone interviewed Vladimir Putin that was perfectly all right. But oh my god Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin. Maybe we should never even let him back in the country, actually, Bill Kristol, who's largely responsible for the many deaths in the Iraq War, former chief of staff to Vice President and work criminal, Dick Cheney, said yesterday that Tucker Carlson shouldn't be allowed back in the US all...
Mike Adams: that's incredible. I mean, I can think of a lot of people we shouldn't let back into the country. But Tucker Carlson isn't one of them. There's, there's quite a few people we should catapult out. It's straight up journalism. But you can see how fragile the left's narrative is, especially about Russia and about Putin, where they can't even allow one journalist to ask a single honest question and and hear Putin's response to America, you know, because, look, I'll just be straight up honest about most Americans see, Putin is making a whole lot more sense than Joe Biden.
Roger Stone: Well, and I think most Americans realize that Zelinsky is a comic actor who was hired to act like the president. But there's unlimited number of interviews with him and the American media where he talks about Russia as the aggressor. But very few people talk about the fact that what we're doing right now in Ukraine is in violation of the Budapest Memorandum, which we signed, we agreed when, when Russia agreed to unify West and East Germany, we in turn, agreed not to push Ukraine into NATO, which really means we agreed not to put offensive missiles pointed at Russia paid for by us through NATO on the ground in Ukraine. This administration has pushed forward with that, in violation of an agreement that we signed. And that is that's Putin is concerned this idea that he wants to take Ukraine and then he's gonna take Poland and then we'll take Germany and then he's gonna take...
Mike Adams: That's yeah. All right. So, Roger, what are your plans? For our I mean, are you an I apologize, I honestly don't know. Are you going to help the Trump campaign? Are you advising? Do you have strategies to share with Trump? How are you going to help us take America back?
Roger Stone: I have no official capacity with the President's campaign, nor do I want one. I do enjoy his friendship. And he said many kinds of things about me and my wife. As you know, my wife survived a virulent bout of cancer, but through the healing power of Jesus Christ, and because of the alternative therapies that she chose to pursue, she's now two and a half years. cancer free. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you. But the President, I've spent time with him. I'm in regular touch with him. He's got some excellent people working on his campaign. Not all of them, but but the vast majority of his campaign leadership is superb. These are the people I would choose for him. If it were up to me to choose. Of course it isn't. But these are precisely the people that I would have chosen. They're loyal. They're efficient, they're wise, they're experienced. His campaign is very, very calibrated, very disciplined and very carefully budgeted, because he does have this drain, you know, for legal fees, which has to come out of the various political committees, but he's running an excellent campaign. I can honestly say, as a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns, going all the way back to Nixon, three campaigns with Reagan, by my service to Bob Dole, my favorite service to to Donald Trump. This is the best run presidential campaign I have seen. And it shows the results in Iowa, he didn't just win, he won by three times the previous high watermark, right. He didn't just and New Hampshire, which was a setup, if there was any place where he was going to be stopped. It was in New Hampshire, where while state law does say that registered independents can vote in the Republican primary, they can only do so when the New Hampshire Republican state committee has approved resolution approved approve that was never taken to the Republican state committee. So the Secretary of State allowed independents to vote in the primary, which by the way, is traditional but in the past, was always removed by the Republican state committee. And independents. In New Hampshire, because of the influx of migrants from Massachusetts, they lean left very far left. And then of course, if you're a Democrat, if you change your registration to independent by October 6, you would have been allowed to vote in the recent primary. Nikki Haley who is just a pawn she's a puppet being used by the Biden and the globalists to try to damage Trump she spent $38 million. By my calculation, Trump spent about 18 She had the active support of Governor Chris Sununu, one of the most vile rhinos I've ever come across. I had extensive dealings with his father, he was a pig guide, liar as well kind of runs in the family. They pulled out all the stops, and Trump still beat them by double digits because he's an excellent campaign. He's going to sweep the the Nevada primaries, which is today, he's going to sweep the Nevada delegate caucuses on Thursday. He's Mickey Haley didn't even compete. And Ron DeSantis his support kind of fell away. But more importantly, South Carolina, the home state of Nikki Haley, he's gonna while a pre could beat her as big as two to one. It's notable that the governor of South Carolina, the lieutenant governor, the leaders of both houses of the legislature, the Republican leaders, a majority of the congressional delegation, Republicans, they all support Donald Trump over their own former governor. Well, they all know well, that tells you a great deal.
Mike Adams: Why is Nikki Haley still even in the race?
Roger Stone: Because she's a pawn? I mean, she she's being used to try to damage Trump. So there's there's really two possibilities. One you keep her in the race to continue to attack Trump to try to assist Joe Biden. And who knows maybe she gets a cabinet position out of Biden or whoever the ultimate Democrat is, because I'm not convinced it will be Biden, or secondarily, she thinks I think incorrectly, that she can force her way on to the ticket that Trump will say, Well, the way to bind up the divisions in the party is to take this neocon for vice president. If that were true might. Donald Trump would need a food taster. She is completely duplicitous. She's just as dangerous as Lyndon Johnson. You could not turn your back on Earth. or an epicenter? Proof is in the pudding. She looked down on Trump in the eye. And she said, Mr. President, you are among our greatest presidents. If you run again, I'm not going to run. But today, she's running that tells you everything you need to know her word is no good. And her worldview is the same as Lindsey, Lindsey Graham, bomb now ask questions later.
Mike Adams: Well, yeah, but But of course, I think she came out of Boeing, another weapons manufacturer that stands to profit from all of this, and it seems like we're ruled by either Big Pharma or big weapons manufacturers, most of the time, but Trump supporters would not stand for Nikki Haley to be the VP candidate. Who do you think Roger is the most likely person to take the VP slot with Trump?
Roger Stone: Well, first of all, former President Richard Nixon once told me that in selecting a vice presidential running mate, don't look for somebody who can help you try to select someone who doesn't hurt you. And while that may be somewhat cynical, it's actually pretty good advice. Trump needs someone who first and foremost has the experience, the qualifications, the temperament and the judgment to be president. They also have to have a commitment to the America first anti globalist agenda. Those are the highest requirements. Now let's look at the politics of it. You need someone who doesn't upset your base of supporters, but allows you to reach out to a voter group where you can make gains. So by definition, that could be an African American, or it could be somebody who's Hispanic or it could be someone who is a woman. I think he's got a lot of great choices. He's the greatest showman of all time. He understands that this is a matter of great public interest. He's going to teach it right up until the moment he's made a decision. Today, I don't honestly think he's made a decision or if he has, it's a tentative decision since he shared it with no one. He has the capability of changing his mind. But I think he needs to pick someone who's anti war, who wants to seal the border. Without any question. Someone who will put America first doesn't want to send billions more to Ukraine to be stolen or wasted. I mean, what's going on in this country is really insane. We we see New York City to New York City police officers get the daylights beat out of them by a group of illegal migrants. And then the district attorney doesn't ask for incarceration. They're granted or any bond. They're basically just released on their own recognizance. Of course, they split That's outrageous. That same district attorney trying to prosecute somebody for selling fake vaccination cards, unbelievable. Washington state, we're now gonna give $1,000 to every illegal on a monthly basis taking that money out of COVID-19 funding. Unbelievable.
Mike Adams: UBI for illegals, yeah.
Roger Stone: In New York City. The mayor has just approved the program for $53 million for pre loaded credit cards, which were going to give to illegals in the shelters in New York City. Meanwhile, we have homeless veterans who are hungry in New York City, taking care of them, Americans who's taking care of them.
Mike Adams: No, no, the American people have been abandoned by the administration, and our replacements have arrived. This is a replacement of America. That's that's the aim of the Democrats. And let me let me ask you this. We're almost out of time, Roger, but in your assessment based on what you know, right now, if we were to have an honest election, and I know that's not possible, because the Democrats will cheat every chance they get. But theoretically, if it were an honest election by how much would Trump win in this election?
Roger Stone: I think he would win the popular vote nationally, comfortably. I think he would. This is today. Let's recognize that in politics. Polls are a measure of a snapshot of time that it's the epicenter of time, and things can change dramatically. So and they know that so if you have some staged terrorist attack on American soil, that could royal thing and change things. But if this election were held today, in this moment, Trump pulled when every swing state by a margin slightly larger than the margin of error in all of these polls, and he would sweep the popular vote as well. The bottom has dropped out for the Democrats, there is no support the fact that they had the South Carolina primary yesterday. And while Joe Biden got 97% of the vote, the overall turnout was extraordinarily anemic, nobody showed up to vote because there is no enthusiasm for the Biden candidacy. So as of today, if we have a free, fair, honest, transparent election, Trump would win comfortably. Now, are we going to have such an election that remains to be seen? This time, however, the Republicans or I shouldn't say Trump will be far more prepared both legally and Technically, to ferret out irregularities and anomalies on election night there, they're not going to get away with locking Republican observers out of the polling places and dumping a bunch of fake ballots like they did in Michigan.
Mike Adams: But how are they not going to get away with that?
Roger Stone: It's very simple. You go directly to a judge and you get in order to make them open the doors and then you also have to stymie the police that Detroit police were being used as thugs that night, by the way, you got the former Detroit Chief of Police running for governor Republican. You are the chief of police that night, what's your answer? And he says, Well, I was off duty that night, please give me a break. Please give me a break.
Mike Adams: Okay. Well, Roger, your analysis is just extraordinary. Your experience with so many campaigns, and so many national leaders, really, you have a wealth of knowledge about this, and I really appreciate your insight, and also your passion and courage for America. So I just want to thank you for joining me today.
Roger Stone: I'm delighted to be here. And again, folks can go to stonezone.com And check out everything I'm up to, you know, they say in politics a man is not finished when he's defeated. He's only finished when he quits. You know, you might in the struggle for America, I among others will never quit.
Mike Adams: All right. Stonezone.com is the website, folks. And that's Roger Stone. Thank you, Roger. God bless you. God bless America. Thank you for joining me today. God bless you. Thank you. And thank all of you for watching.
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