Mike Adams did not ease into his Decentralize.TV interview with Tucker Carlson. The premise was there in the first question: we live under an American empire that believes it can rule the world's currency by weaponizing the dollar and the SWIFT system. Carlson agreed — and said the misconception runs deeper still.
"You can't rule by force," he told Adams and co-host Todd Pitner. "You can't rule your household by force as a father. You can't rule your marriage by force as a husband. You can't rule your country by force, and you can't really rule the world by force." There has never been an absolute dictator, he added; even the most bloodthirsty monarch governs with a constituency, however small.
"The idea that you could run a global empire at the point of a gun or a billion-dollar aircraft carrier is just like insane," Carlson said. "It's a misunderstanding of reality, and I think it's coming to its end."
Carlson dates the steep slide to a single decision: the expulsion of Russian banks from the SWIFT messaging system in early 2022, which he described as the day Biden kicked Russia out of SWIFT. He was working at a television network at the time, and he says he wrote it into that night's script.
"I said it that night," Carlson recalled. "I remember writing the script that this is the beginning of the end of the U.S. dollar, of dollar hegemony."
The response, he said, was threats from his own employer, along with assurances that he was over his skis and that the dollar would always be the reserve currency. He stood by the analysis for a reason he considers obvious rather than technical: nations use dollars because they choose to.
"But ultimately, they use dollars because they want to. They're choosing to do it," he said. Washington has neither the manpower nor the resources to hold a gun to every buyer and seller on earth. "The second that they perceive that the downside outweighs the upside, they're out," he said, "and it may take a while for them to actually get out, but they're out."
The people who actually run national reserves have been quietly reaching the same conclusion. In the World Gold Council's 2026 survey of central banks — its largest ever — 74 percent said they expect the dollar's share of global reserves to be lower in five years. A record 45 percent expect their own institution to add gold within twelve months.
The IMF's numbers show erosion rather than collapse. The dollar's share of allocated reserves stood at roughly 56 percent in mid-2025, down from a peak near 72 percent around 2001, though the Fund notes that most of the recent quarterly move reflected currency appreciation rather than managers actually selling dollars. Central-bank gold buying tells a similar story: 863 tonnes in 2025, down from roughly 1,090 the year before, but still far above the pre-2022 norm. Analysis published in May by EBC Financial Group frames the underlying trap plainly: sanctions work because the dollar is trusted, and each demonstration that reserves can be frozen spends a little of that trust.
Carlson has a stake in the answer: he co-founded a precious-metals company after leaving Fox News in 2023, and he keeps a substantial share of his own assets in physical gold, which he calls the ballast in the ship rather than a hedge.
Europe is currently running Carlson's experiment in public. Roughly €210 billion in immobilized Russian central-bank assets sits in EU jurisdictions, and Brussels spent a year trying to turn it into a "reparations loan" for Ukraine. In December, EU leaders blinked and agreed to borrow €90 billion on their own credit instead, in part because the European Central Bank warned that tying sovereign reserves to an EU loan could undermine confidence in euro-denominated assets. The people doing the freezing concede the trust cost. They simply hope to pay it later.
Meanwhile, Washington keeps sending money it does not have to a war it cannot end, and asks the rest of the world to keep financing the deficit on faith. And this is where Adams put the sharpest point on it. Responding to Carlson's point that no military force can reopen the Strait of Hormuz, Adams put the sharpest point on it: "the Fed cannot print oil, although Trump will order them to try."
Carlson asked to steal it. "I am a great stealer of phrases," he said – and then said it back again on his way out the door.
He is right that it is a good line. It is also the argument in five words. A government can freeze reserves, cut banks out of SWIFT, and denominate the world's oil in a currency it alone issues — and none of that produces a single barrel. Force can compel a transaction. It cannot manufacture the thing being transacted, and it cannot manufacture the willingness to keep showing up.
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